Amun-Ra : Your Size

Queenie

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They say the truth hurts, but it can also set you free!

Amun-Ra, I didn't take what you wrote as your intention to insult anyone, but to speak the truth. So I accept it as something positive and think it's information that could be very helpful to us as a Black community.

The way we dress today is influenced by whom? Not only are these outfits fashion disasters they are also health hazards. Instead of a fashion label some should also come with the surgeon general's warning label sewed in. The way they are designed, the way they are cut...some of them might as well include a label: NOT MADE FOR BLACK PEOPLE.

To add to your list, let's not forget the infamously famous "thong". Will someone tell me what the purpose of a thong is? What is so natural about walking around with a piece of elastic string stuffed in your butt? Is it sexy? Is it functional? If you don't want a panty line, then go panty-free. That makes far more sense to me.

You speak of cleavage and how much you think should be appropriate to advertise. Has anyone told Aretha? A man created the bra...a chest harness and for what? Who is it bothering if women's breasts are set free to jiggle and sway as they see fit? All breasts aren't small and perky or artifically enhanced--let's face it. But I agree Black women should wear outfits that enhance her beauty and not draw away from it.

What is the purpose of pantyhose? Yet millions of women stuff themselves in these elastic tubes like armor everyday. Some would feel naked without them. But they often prohibit fresh air reaching places that need it. They can be hot and be uncomfortable.

Gynecologists are seeing an increase in all kinds of rashes, vaginal infections and physical aches and pains in women caused by clothes not made for Black women's bodies. Yet we still wear these clothes because they're the latest style and we suffer the consequences .

We need to stop believing the hype. Most fashion designers are European and as quiet as it's kept, the average white woman isn't a size 2 or 4 either. But because that's what's portrayed in the media, flashing across our televisions in music videos by the majority of today's young artists, women in our society are running to the stores buying up these clothes without giving it a second thought as to how she looks when she stuffs herself into those outfits.

The voluntary act of starving one's self (anorexia/bulimia) is on the rise among our young women. Binge eating and throwing up or not eating at all--to try and be skinny. Some of our women are doing unnatural and unhealthy things to try to look like a toothpick. They see J-Lo on the latest cover of Vibe magazine with her cosmetically and airbrushed curved behind stuck out toward the camera with a pair of smoke shorts on (white women call them hotpants) and they want to look like her. How many care whether that's how she looks naturally or not?

More and more Black women are going under the knife seeking cosmetic surgery to "enhance" their natural beauty or just change how they look altogether. They want the pseudo-European look now. False breasts, thinned noses, flatter stomachs, slimmer thighs and smaller butts. Do they care that Miss Jackson doesn't really look like that? Of course not, they just wanna be like her.

Now Black women need to know the difference between being obese or over-weight and having natural curves. I read an article in Essence magazine a few years ago entitled, "Fat Is A Black Woman's Issue." Essentially it was saying that because Black women don't fit the stereotype of beauty in America, she develops issues with the way she looks and begins to hate her looks. So she over-eats.

We are not meant to look like sticks. We need to start loving ourselves and stop trying to conform (or assimilate into) to whatever the media says we should look like and how we should dress. Quit looking at Victoria Secret, stop believing the hype, love your curves and dress them in ways that compliment them and you. If you wanna turn heads when you walk in a room, let it be because people find you pleasing to the eye and not blinded by the sight.

Self-confidence, self-love, self-awareness, knowledge. . . does more to make you beautiful than the clothes you wear.

Peace and thanks for the topic!
 

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I don't agree with every single thing Amun Ra and $$Rich$$ said, but ya'll got me rolling over here, I hear that comment all the time from my friends regarding "big" size women, but remember the majority of women in America are over size 12. So what you think is tacky or disgusting is the normal size for women nowadays. NNQueen you made some real good points.
 

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Seriously

What you say seem to be true--Frequently, in the black community itg is mentioned that both men and women suffer from a lack of esteem, but sometimes I think we have far too much esteem for ourselves and not enough common sense--Ra

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Queenie

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Common sense. What is that and what sense should be "common" among us?

Large, soft breasts with deep cleavages in low necklines, round bellies with sunken navels exposed, stretch marks, surgical scars for all to see, plump and dimpled butts straining from trying to be contained in low riding slacks with just a wee bit of cleavage showing, thick thighs showing from underneath a short skirt. Is it a lack of common sense if people reveal their true selves or should the truth be hidden? Don't we prefer it when people are being honest? If people think they look good and you don't agree, then who's problem is it really?

Is it that people who dress in revealing clothes lack self-esteem or could it be just the opposite and they have healthy esteem? Too much esteem? To the degree that people willfully dress as they please? Why do we judge? If we cover up what we consider "flaws" with our own bodies, that only shows what we think of ourselves as compared to....what....some standard? And if so, by whose standards? Do we not like our bodies? Do we see a "problem" with our bodies because we may be soft in some areas and plump in others? If we don't like what we see, why should we judge others who do?

People who see a person's body and is repulsed by it, what are they really thinking? ..ooO(that is ugly...they're too fat...now they should be ashamed of themselves to wear something like that! What were they thinking, that they looked good?) By what standard do we define "beauty" or how do we really decide what's eye-appealing? Do you think if we lived in a culture where large breasts hanging low, rounder tummies and broad hips were the "norm", we'd be repulsed when we saw women like this?

Should it be illegal for women to breastfeed in public or show their pregnant bellies in public? Is that repulsive to some too? It's cultural folks.

I'd rather challenge American society's standards of beauty and the fashion industry that perpetuates America's myths of beauty and give my sisters something to work with that works to flatter them. In the meantime, let them strut their stuff as long as it's not creating health problems for them.

The beholder that doesn't see "beauty" when they look, well, by which ruler are you using to measure it?
 

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I was beginning to wonder if we would have a dissenting word--yes! We criticize because we can--that is the only reason--on the other hand, I worry that we are not taken seriously and that we cannot do the same things as others folks--right or wrong--that is what I see--we have to be twice or thrice as good--everybody does it isn't enough--we must critique ourselves as a people and part of that has to do with what we laugh at behind the scenes and stand up for in public forums--it is a double edged sword--I have a list of things that as black people I think we cannot afford to be a part of, but it runs aground the shores of individual freedom and a benevolent dictator is still a dictator--I just know we can do better at a whole lot of things, but it means self-denial and that is something that I don't think we are ready to do. For instance, there isn't a thing wrong with taking a drink, but as a people liquor is the last thing we need when it comes to clear thinking and getting ahead. I love to party. Everyone loves to party, but maybe we should be busting *** developing businesses and ideas and let the rest party themselves into second-class citizenship. I care too much and that is the problem because I tend to see things in black and white and there is so much room in-between.

Ra

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