Niger : Twin Pyramids found in Niger

Kemetstry

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No it don't. I suggest you study further study the history of early. Nubia/ Kush specifically Kerma.

And no. They are not one and the same with whatever geographical region you unclearly define as Kemet.


I guess it depends on who your expert is. They have carbon dated artifacts to be older than originally said. So, who came 1st and was more advanced and influenced whom,......????





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Omowale Jabali

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I guess it depends on who your expert is. They have carbon dated artifacts to be older than originally said. So, who came 1st and was more advanced and influenced whom,......????





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No it doesn't depend on the individual or expert but the archaeological record.

And the issue is not who was more advanced. Imperialists are usually more advanced militarily than the people they conquer.
 

Omowale Jabali

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nope not at all - i firmly believe kemet was a black nation - im simply answering Mr Kenyattas comment that i quoted - he couldnt see how whites could fail to know kemet was a black nation - and those pics viewed through white eyes i beleieve might make a white think kemet wasnt all black - only later might they realise that in statues of couple the woman is often shown as pale - i dont think the painters were going for realistic colors - its all symbolic - but the first whites to research kemet probably woudnt know that
Not wholly African or Black. For example, the Hyksos rulers. I'm going to stop here because the direction of this discussion proves a point brother Blackbird had often stated. We need to not view every culture as an extension of a singular location.
 

Dreya

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Not wholly African or Black. For example, the Hyksos rulers. I'm going to stop here because the direction of this discussion proves a point brother Blackbird had often stated. We need to not view every culture as an extension of a singular location.
correction accepted - i should have said kemet 'began' as a black nation - as time passed it became more ethnically mixed - not just from invaders but from the deliberate importation of foreingers too...... foreign princesses coming as wives - foreign concubines being imported on mass.....

"After the 10th year of his reign it is said that
Amenhotep III “gave himself over to the pleasures of the harem,” meaning that he devoted his energy to gaining as many wives and concubines as possible, even into his old age.
The first foreign princess to be sent to the Pharaoh was
Gilu-khepa, a Mitannian Princess, who arrived with an entourage of 317 ladies-in-waiting; this union was celebrated with a commemorative scarab. This
scarab also shows that even with these diplomatic marriages the King’s affection for his great wife was not diminished, as she is also mentioned on the scarab:
“Year 10 under the majesty of…the Son of Re, Amenhotep, Ruler of Thebes, who is granted life and the Great King’s wife, Tiye, who liveth; the name of whose father was Yuya, the name of whose mother was Thuya. Marvels brought to his majesty… Gilu-khepa, the daughter of the chief of Naharin (Mitanni), Shuttarna, and the chief of her harem ladies, 317 persons.”
 

Kemetstry

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No it doesn't depend on the individual or expert but the archaeological record.

And the issue is not who was more advanced. Imperialists are usually more advanced militarily than the people they conquer.


That's my point. The archaeological record has changed over the years. Initially, Kemet was viewed to be ~5k years old. Now, that time frame is said to be 12-14 thousand years. Carbon dating and other evidence verifies that





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Dreya

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That's my point. The archaeological record has changed over the years. Initially, Kemet was viewed to be ~5k years old. Now, that time frame is said to be 12-14 thousand years. Carbon dating and other evidence verifies that





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can you give a link to where they found that date from carbon dating?
 

Kemetstry

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can you give a link to where they found that date from carbon dating?


This was some time ago. Maybe ten years now. It was on some news report. I'm going from memory. Sorry. We will have to look it up. lol





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Dreya

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This was some time ago. Maybe ten years now. It was on some news report. I'm going from memory. Sorry. We will have to look it up. lol





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k - its just that all the carbon datin eveidence ive seen points to a way younger result - for the pyramids they did find the result to be older than the accepted history worked out previously - but only by just under 400 years.....

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/pyramid/explore/howold2.html

http://www.aeraweb.org/projects/how-old-are-the-pyramids/

now of course thats just datin of the pyramids - but most who beleieve in a much more ancient kemet do seem to also be the ones puttin the pyramids way back further in history too
 

42Tribes

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nope not at all - i firmly believe kemet was a black nation - im simply answering Mr Kenyattas comment that i quoted - he couldnt see how whites could fail to know kemet was a black nation - and those pics viewed through white eyes i beleieve might make a white think kemet wasnt all black - only later might they realise that in statues of couple the woman is often shown as pale - i dont think the painters were going for realistic colors - its all symbolic - but the first whites to research kemet probably woudnt know that
The pictures you posted were the exception. You should look up the video I made Two Faces of Ancient Egypt. The Nefertiti bust was repainted and it does not look like her total body of work.. There are no people labeled as Nubians so why would anyone call those people Nubians? Rahotep and Nofret couple has tell signs of forgery and I have seen at least 10 other sculptures of couples that look more like ancient Egyptians and the writing is carved instead of an apparent decal. The leopard skin priest has faded skin tone. The others look legit. The full body of art in Egypt was unmistakable.

This was their stylized glyph for face....

These face glyph are all over the place. Just Google glyph for face and you can see about 15 of them. Watch enough videos of people walking around Egypt and you see them.

How often do you see Nofret compared to these folks?



Egypt was colonized by the British Empire after they learned about the way the Greeks moved their capital to Africa. I would guess that this is when they started 'restoring' the statue.
 

42Tribes

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What's your take on this?



I have seen the "stylized face" as a generic depiction of "Ptah"

How is, or how do you theorize the glyph is interpreted?

By the way, been a while brother... all has been well?
A good question. I may be able to find the answer as I study the langauage. My initial reaction is **** do the faces look like Khoisan. That would suggest that it is a reflection of humankind and Ptah as model for the creative spirit of the universe. Ptah is commonly represented as a Twa as well. These are two of the oldest people but there might be more to it.

I'm doing well. I'm moving though so I'm taking a couple unpaid weeks off.
 
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