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Mar 3, 2012
it is impossible to omit or forget the violent events that are fully part of the gospel.
Was it not Jesus himself who announced in parables the urgency of a choice which is radical and therefore violent, as in the text of the homicidal winegrowers where they kill the son of the owner to steal the inheritance? after molesting the servants he had sent to his vineyard. reading the New Testament confronts any reader with an open violence that culminates in the arrest of Jesus, the mockery of his iniquitous trial, his torture on Golgotha and his death. We can clearly see why Jesus aroused so many hostile reactions.

"I did not come to bring peace, but the sword" (Mt 10,34). You clearly see in the Jesus of the Bible this awareness of putting in crisis by his words and his actions the usual ways of relating to the Law, to the religious institutions of the time, and ultimately to the tradition of the fathers. To remember the violence of the New Testament is to step into a dangerous tradition and bring it to life that endangers the lives of millions of Jews.

Do you believe that I have come to bring peace to this world? No. I did not come to bring peace, but the dagger. I have come to separate the son and the father, the daughter and the mother, the daughter-in-law and the mother-in-law. Who loves his father and mother more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And who does not follow in my footsteps, loaded with his cross, is not worthy of me either. Whoever wants to save his life will lose it. And whoever lost his life because of me will find it. (Mt 10,34-36) .. What more do you want ..

in all Muslim countries anyone who follows the events and the analysis of specialists knows that in these countries foreign forces are involved; Iraq it was an American lie it was they who started the war and it turned out that the reason put forward was a pure lie
Lebanon is under several countries influencing in particular France ... Russia for Syria ... all
and the weapons used are now known to have origins in non-Muslim countries
why don't they leave these countries alone? they say it is to defend the citizens but what is the result? it can be seen that these are lies and that the goal is economic or strategic interests .. or against Islam quite simply not to let Islamic governments settle in
foreign countries which have nothing to do with these countries except that they have interests and this under false reasons;

Europe has gone through bloody wars and has come to understand that unity is strength; Muslim countries are going through stages for a metamorphosis but foreign forces do not let this process go through they are afraid

أحمد ديدات --- الحدود وأشياء أخرى طريفة من الكتاب المقدس

إختلاف الألسُن واللُغات بين الآيات واللعنات -- من روائع الشيخ ديدات رحمه الله

أحمد ديدات - إثبات تحريف الكتاب المقدس

Jan 22, 2001
betwixt and between
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Hi @macoo ... it's always good to see you've posted. You're so quiet, to yourself, all the years! :)

The above article is interesting and true.

It seems few countries are free to be themselves.

Thanks for sharing!

Much Love and Peace.




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Mar 3, 2012
thank you


. Christians very often criticize Jihad in Islam and do not understand, or pretend not to understand, that war may become inevitable in certain situations, and even necessary. Yet it suffices to look at history to realize that war has always been part of the lot of human beings.

A religion that has no law governing war cannot be a religion of love for the simple reason that in conflict situations its followers risk overindulging. The History of Christianity is a fine example of this case. Indeed, having no law governing war, Christianity was guilty of the Crusades, Colonization, Slavery, Inquisition, exterminations of American Indians and Australian Aborigines. , the apartheid situation in
South Africa, etc. Would a religion of love, as argued by Christian polemicists, give so much rotten fruit?

These polemicists absolutely do not understand the notion of abandoning oneself to fight in the way of God and to protect the weak as the Holy Quran says:

And what is it with you? You do not fight in the cause of Allah and for oppressed men, women, and children who cry out, “Our Lord! Deliver us from this land of oppressors! Appoint for us a saviour; appoint for us a helper—all by Your grace.”

Holy Quran, Sura an-Nisâ (Women) 4, 75

It is therefore from the perspective of fighting for God and for the cause of the weak that Islam conceives of war. It is with realism that we read in the book of Islamic jurisprudence, Fiqh As-Sunna:

War is an ineluctable social phenomenon which touches all Nations and all times, or nearly so; the earlier revealed Laws recognize this fact: we find in the Torah which the Jews meditate on the legal recognition of the concept of war in its most abrupt form. As for international law, it defines the situations in which war becomes legitimate, codifying for it laws and customs that mitigate its effects, in addition to the fact that these laws have never been applied. "

Source: Sayyid Sabiq, Fiqh As-Sunna, ENNOUR editions, Volume 3, p.25

If Islam governed the war, it was quite simply to limit its misdeeds. Would we be foolish enough to decry the Geneva Conventions and claim that they legitimize war? Clearly not. In Islam, God does not like war and even Christian historian Karen Armstrong understood this when she said:

[...] The word Islam comes from the same Arabic root as the word peace and the Koran condemns war as an abnormal event contrary to the will of God: "Whenever they kindle the fire of war, Allah puts it out. And they strive to spread corruption in the land. And Allah does not like corruptors. " (The Quran, sura al-Ma'ida, verse 64)

Islam does not justify aggressive war or extermination, as the Torah does in the first five books of the Bible. A more realistic religion than Christianity, Islam declares that war is inevitable and sometimes a positive obligation to end oppression and suffering. The Qur'an teaches that war should be limited and conducted in the most humane way possible. Mohammed had to fight not only the inhabitants of Mecca but also the Jewish tribes in the region and the Christian tribes in
Syria who allied with the Jews were planning an attack against him. Yet this did not make Mohammed denounce the people of the book.

We will conclude this short study with the glorification of the warriors by the sanctified champion of Christians, Paul of Tarsus, who affirms in the book attributed to him (Hebrews 11: 32-34): " And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about David and Samuel and the prophets, 33 who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies.

It is therefore by Faith, and for the fulfillment of the divine promises, that these prophets-mujahedin accomplished all these exploits and destroyed their enemies, although they often committed barbarities, and killed the infants who do not 'had not made any mistakes (which is forbidden in Islam by the way).

Christians should spend more time in front of their Bibles and studying it instead of following preconceptions that ultimately backfire

أحمد ديدات - أبناء الرب وأبناء إبليس فى الكتاب المقدس - هام

الإغتصاب المقدّس --- Holy rape

الجنة ثلاث درجات! منصور وحمزة في حوار مع مورموني



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Mar 3, 2012
two bible verses in particular sum up the position of women:

"I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." By this third chapter of Genesis, woman lost her rights, her standing—even her identity, and motherhood became a God-inflicted curse degrading her status in the world.

In the New Testament, the bible decrees:

"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." 1 Tim. 2:11-14

One bible verse alone, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" (Exodus 22:18) is responsible for the death of tens of thousands, if not millions, of women. Do women and those who care about them need further evidence of the great harm of Christianity, predicated as it has been on these and similar teachings about women?

Church writer Tertullian said "each of you women is an Eve . . . You are the gate of Hell, you are the temptress of the forbidden tree; you are the first deserter of the divine law."

Martin Luther decreed: "If a woman grows weary and at last dies from childbearing, it matters not. Let her die from bearing, she is there to do it."

Christian writings therefore indeed regard the intelligence of women as inferior to that of men. According to the Bible women, sources of evil and corruption from "original sin" should remain silent in churches and they should not be given the opportunity to teach or educate a male audience.

Thus, we saw that the law of the levirate was an injustice towards the woman, because it obliges her to marry the brother of the husband if he dies without leaving children, and in default of the brother, it is the nearest relative and so on. As long as the husband has not had children, his wife will be required to marry a man of her family in order to have children, so that the line of the deceased is not erased.

Thus, according to the Bible adultery is one who has slept with a married woman, which means that the man is not punished because he cheated on his wife if he has one, but simply because he slept with his neighbor's wife. Conversely, according to Islam adultery is any person, man or woman, who cheats on his spouse.

The bible establishes woman's inferior status, her "uncleanliness," her transgressions, and God-ordained master/servant relationship to man. Biblical women are possessions: fathers own them, sell them into bondage, even sacrifice them. The bible sanctions rape during wartime and in other contexts. Wives are subject to Mosaic-law sanctioned "bedchecks" as brides, and male jealousy fits and no-notice divorce as wives.

The most typical biblical labels of women are "harlot" and "whore." They are described as having evil, even satanic powers of allurement. Contempt for women's bodies and reproductive capacity is a bedrock of the bible. The few role models offered are stereotyped, conventional and inadequate, with bible heroines admired for obedience and battle spirit. Jesus scorns his own mother, refusing to bless her, and issues dire warnings about the fate of pregnant and nursing women..

احمد ديدات - علماء الغرب و القرآن

نادر جداً - محمد على كلاي و درس في الصبر و الإحتساب

أحمد ديدات يفضح كذب أنيس شوروش

هل كتاب الأناجيل شهود عيان لعيسى أم هذه أقاويل مبالغ فيها؟


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Mar 3, 2012
أثبت لي أن عيسى هو المسيح الذي سيأتي في آخر الزمان! عدنان رشيد في حوار مع زائر

الداعية الأمريكي خالد ياسين يتحدى الإعلام - مترجم - Khalid Yasin's Challenge to the Media

فتحت الإنجيل والقرآن عشوائيًا - النتيجة غير متوقعة

لماذا من العدل أن يُقتل إنساناً بريئاً؟ حوار هاشم مع مسيحيين

أمريكية من طائفة شهود يهوه كانت تظن أنها

على الحق الكامل حتى عرفت الإسلام


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