Black Men : "The Effects Of Fatherlessness On The African American Family", Lecture by Tim Alexander (2hrs)

Kemetstry

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skuderjaymes

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Preposterous, defeatist? Clarify. The "so-called dominated state" is real even if you don't know it. We are a persecuted, subject people dominated by a bunch of racist psychopaths. But for said psychopaths most of us wouldn't be in this country. What decisions specifically does your last sentence refer to? Examples please.
Whether or not the "Dominated state" is real is not the issue at hand. So, because you are persecuted.. you can't choose to spend a good amount of time getting to know your mate before pro-creating? And because you're "persecuted", you can't decide to respect each other.. and be trust-worthy.. and take responsibility for your decisions.. for your spouse.. for your children.. for your community?.. right?.. because you're persecuted, you can't work together to improve your economic condition?.. you can't choose to partner.. or to work together.. or to share.. or to value education.. and focus.. and academic achievement.. right?.. because that persecution is so hot on your trail.. breathing right down your neck 24 hours a day.. right?. There's nothing you can do about nothing.. right?.. cause those racists are out there persecuting every single black man, woman and child.. right? Our choices... our actions.. our values... are all meaningless... right?.. cause that persecution just wipes it all away.. right?.. wrong.

Context really is everything. I been black too long to believe that nothing is under our control. It's just not true.

Taking responsibility for your own predicament does not mean that obstacles don't exist. It means that despite those obstacles, we still have a responsibility to ourselves.. to our ancestors.. to our families to figure our way forward.. to persist.. as we have since the beginning of time.
 
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sekou kasimu

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Whether or not the "Dominated state" is real is that issue at hand. So, because you are persecuted.. you can choose to spend a good amount of time getting to know your mate before pro-creating? And because you're "persecuted", you can't decide to respect each other.. and be trust-worthy.. and to take responsibility for your decisions.. for your spouse.. for your children.. for your community?.. right?.. because you're persecuted, you can't work together to improve your economic condition?.. you can't choose to partner.. or to work together.. or to share.. or to value education.. and focus.. and academic achievement.. right?.. because that persecution is so hot on your trail.. breathing right down your neck 24 hours a day.. right?. There's nothing you can do about nothing.. right?.. cause those racists are out there persecuting every single black man, woman and child.. right? Our choices... our actions.. our values... are all meaningless... right?.. cause that persecution just wipes it all away.. right?.. wrong.

Context really is everything. I been black too long to believe that nothing is under our control. It's just not true.

Taking responsibility for your own predicament does not mean that obstacles don't exist. It means that despite those obstacles, we still have a responsibility to ourselves.. to our ancestors.. to our families to figure our way forward.. to persist.. as we have since the beginning of time.
So why do you suppose we don't do those beautiful things that you have so beautifully laid out? Evidently it is not that simple! Especially when you consider that much depends on economics, and we are living in the worst economic depression since 1930. Some economists maintain that this one is worse than the one in 1930. You really should study and understand oppression and exploitation, and what it does to its victims before you pontificate.
 

sekou kasimu

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I can dig that, but let's get to the meat of this comment while using some content for context as well...

ANC Supporters Beat Woman, South Africa Elections
Warning, very graphic and disturbing (couldn't watch it to the end)

The video was released around the same time as the national elections took place in South Africa and it has been alleged that ANC members pictured in the footage were beating a Cope party supporter to death.

Footage of the horrific incident does show people clad in ANC insignia, but also others in plain clothing descending on the unprotected woman. Members of the mob kicked, punched, jump on victim as well as beat her with the blunt side of an axe.

Links:


Is South Africa a European project?

April 5, 2016:

My question in regards to the comment about "Europeans" is...

Which areas/lands/people have not been presumably affect by "European" influences?

List them if one could for contrast and comparison.
What's your point? That Afrikans were and are traumatized by slavery and colonization? That, consequently, we turned on each other? That we suffer from post traumatic slavery disorder? Common knowledge to those of us who read, and understand history.
 

Kemetstry

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such as. you know the drill Kem.. show us the money or sit this hand out.


Go to the relationship forum and look up the thread: "ADDRESSING THE MYTH OF FATHERLESS HOMES" There are several in there that specifically pertain to black males





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sekou kasimu

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My question in regards to the comment about "Europeans" is...

Which areas/lands/people have not been presumably affect by "European" influences?

List them if one could for contrast and comparison.
Don't even try it! Do your own research if you really want to know Smile Hint: One!
Sekou Kasimu
March 26 at 6:33pm ·
I signed! What are y'all waiting for? Lol



MEET THE JARAWAS
ORGANIC THE JARAWA is a documentary about the most ancient people in the world, the endangered Jarawa. They are only 420 left in the Andamans islands in India.
 

SouthsideIrish

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Pointing a finger outward is more comfortable movement than pointing it inward. Police in many Europeon countries don't even carry a gun.
 

NyneElementz

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So why do you suppose we don't do those beautiful things that you have so beautifully laid out? Evidently it is not that simple! Especially when you consider that much depends on economics, and we are living in the worst economic depression since 1930. Some economists maintain that this one is worse than the one in 1930. You really should study and understand oppression and exploitation, and what it does to its victims before you pontificate.

May I tell you why?

It is because we have developed the wrong mentality regarding our relationships. The ability to act responsibly or not is not determined by economics alone. Many marriages have survived nearly crushing economic situations while many have not. But when engaging in these relationships, what's the motive by both the men and women in these relationships? Is it to partner and make a better life for each other, or what I like to call the "give/take away" type of relationship? Most people get involved in the give/take away relationship looking for some benefit the other person offers, not a relationship where you actually like the person for who they are, learn their strengths, weaknesses, and find some way to build a life together. And when that give/take away relationship fails, that's where dramas usually begin. Whether economically any couple is good or not, wrong motives ruin a relationship long before economics do.
 

sekou kasimu

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No worries.
This is the best I could gather:

The underdevelopment of Africa by Europe
http://revealinghistories.org.uk/africa-the-arrival-of-europeans-and-the-transatlantic-slave-trade/articles/the-underdevelopment-of-africa-by-europe.html

Still will look for areas and people that were not affected by "Europeans", because this would mean that they don't view women the same as those with "European" influences.

Found them

Ethiopia and Liberia

Sources:
http://streamafrica.com/culture/liberia-ethiopia-never-colonized-african-countries/
http://africanhistory.about.com/od/eracolonialism/tp/AfricaNotColon.htm


Now will have a look at their views on women in these countries.


Ethiopia first:

Ethiopia's women vow to turn tide of violence, rape and murder

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Tuesday 27 January 2015

Tejnesh Leweg’neh, a 15-year-old from Ethiopia’s mountainous northern Shoa region, was abducted by three men on her way to market in October. They tried to force her to agree to marry one of them. She refused, and, a day later, they pushed her off a cliff. Now Tejnesh is paralysed from the waist down.

That same month, 16-year-old Hanna Lalango, from Ethiopia’s cosmopolitan capital, Addis Ababa, was abducted by a group of men from a minibus on the outskirts of the city. She was raped over several days and died in hospital about a month later from her injuries. Five men have been convicted and are awaiting sentence for the attack. Hanna reportedly identified her assailants before she died.

Both these crimes were brought to light by an energised network of mostly female Ethiopian activists trying to advance women’s rights and reduce sexual harassment in the Horn of Africa country.

Read more:
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/jan/27/ethiopia-women-violence-rape-murder


GENDER EQUALITY AND WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT

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In Ethiopia, 80 percent of the population resides in rural areas and women provide the majority of the agriculture labor in these communities. However, women’s access to resources and community participation are usually mediated through men, either their fathers or husbands, and their agricultural contributions often go largely unrecognized. Additionally, when women have access to their own income, they are more likely than men to spend it on the betterment of their families and successfully participate in village savings or pay school fees for their children. USAID programs promote women’s decision-making power within households so they can better influence personal, family and community decisions.

More:
https://www.usaid.gov/ethiopia/gender-equality-and-womens-empowerment



Now a look at Liberia:

Liberia Vows to End Violence Against Women

February 28, 2013

DAKAR— In the lead up to Women’s Day, on March 8, Liberia has become the latest nation to sign a pledge to end violence against women and girls. In Dakar, the human-rights group U.N. Women says nearly 100 countries have no specific legal provisions against domestic violence.

A 45-year-old housewife from Monrovia, Lucy Morris, says violence against women is a serious problem in Liberia.

“Many of us are beaten by our husbands. My husband beats me almost every time. He hurts me a lot. I have taken the complaints to the female [rights] lawyer and they have called him for an investigation, but this is still happening," she said.

Read more:
http://www.voanews.com/content/liberia-vows-to-end-violence-against-women/1612577.html




So being that these are the two (really one; Liberia was established by "Europeans") places that were not highly affected or influenced by "Europeans", this would mean that "Europeans" were able to make "Africans" hate and fear woman.


Just trying to following the content to identify the information that was (or wasn't) presented.
Hopefully you noticed the obvious Arab Islamic influence depicted in the picture. Afrikan men learned to oppress and exploit women from the Arabs and Europeans. Neither were a part of our philosophy or tradition before the coming of the foreigners, fakers, and fools into Afrika.
 
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