Pan-Africanism : Perspectives on Pan-Africanism and Pan-Arabism

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Maybe I missed it. But could you please be so kind as to remind me of one single thing that you are doing for Pan-Africanism. Please. That is besides trying to destroy it from the inside out.[/QUOTE]


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"That is besides trying to destroy it from the inside out."

Actually, I am trying to HEAL Our Youth from the damage that has been done by corrupt political leadership which has proven ineffective and keeps "fronting" in which there is no future.

If the armed-chair "revolutionaries" based on college campuses ever stop pot and crack smoking and solve their problems with dementia and alcoholism perhaps the youth will benefit from better role models and aspire to be more than pimps, playas and playa haters drunk on haterade.

See you in "the trenches"....

Oh, by the way....I was NOT the cause of internal party "disintegration" at the central committee and regional coordinator levels. The can be attributed to the mass infestation and defection of CIA operatives who no longer view you as a "threat" to the I-P-I-C.
 

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Maybe I missed it. But could you please be so kind as to remind me of one single thing that you are doing for Pan-Africanism. Please. That is besides trying to destroy it from the inside out.[/QUOTE]


Hold up....the more I think about it, for those who are "reading" any of these posts, the ONE thing I am doing for Pan-Africanism is EXPOSING fake "revolutionaries" such as yourself.

In fact, it just dawned on me that you dont even HOST your own website.

You are "based" on a WHITE-owned "blogspot".

LOL!!!
:)
 

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OmowaleX said:
Maybe I missed it. But could you please be so kind as to remind me of one single thing that you are doing for Pan-Africanism. Please. That is besides trying to destroy it from the inside out.

Hold up....the more I think about it, for those who are "reading" any of these posts, the ONE thing I am doing for Pan-Africanism is EXPOSING fake "revolutionaries" such as yourself.

In fact, it just dawned on me that you dont even HOST your own website.

You are "based" on a WHITE-owned "blogspot".

LOL!!!
:)[/QUOTE]


Now, in case you do not yet know what decency is and how to take a little teasing from a fellow African, please allow me to demostrate.

Your criticism is receaved on this end. I accept it. You are abosolutley right about my host being "white". You are absolutely right about me not owning the host company. Now, be assured that I am not angry with you for "exposing" these weaknesses. Even if you are doing so with malicious intent, it does not get me all wound up and bent out of shape.

In fact, I am quite relieved to see that you are still alive. You are not toatally brain dead. So, there is still a little hope for you.

Besides, I thank you for saying something to me, even if it was not axcatly positive.

But, let me show you one more little thing. That is how to actually come up with a positive and constructive thought or idea.

Now, let me see...... Hum... okay. I got it: why do not you me and all of the other Africans start pooling our limited resources to do something for the African Nation? Maybe we can aspire to own our own media company or something. What do you say to that, Brother?
 

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abdurratln said:
Hold up....the more I think about it, for those who are "reading" any of these posts, the ONE thing I am doing for Pan-Africanism is EXPOSING fake "revolutionaries" such as yourself.

In fact, it just dawned on me that you dont even HOST your own website.

You are "based" on a WHITE-owned "blogspot".

LOL!!!
:)

Now, in case you do not yet know what decency is and how to take a little teasing from a fellow African, please allow me to demostrate.

Your criticism is receaved on this end. I accept it. You are abosolutley right about my host being "white". You are absolutely right about me not owning the host company. Now, be assured that I am not angry with you for "exposing" these weaknesses. Even if you are doing so with malicious intent, it does not get me all wound up and bent out of shape.

In fact, I am quite relieved to see that you are still alive. You are not toatally brain dead. So, there is still a little hope for you.

Besides, I thank you for saying something to me, even if it was not axcatly positive.

But, let me show you one more little thing. That is how to actually come up with a positive and constructive thought or idea.

Now, let me see...... Hum... okay. I got it: why do not you me and all of the other Africans start pooling our limited resources to do something for the African Nation? Maybe we can aspire to own our own media company or something. What do you say to that, Brother?[/QUOTE]

Perhaps, as a start, you put your money up as I have done HERE and become a premium MEMBER.

I already own and operate about 14 websites with an international "social network" and am in the process of developing 3 business enterprises which focus on publishing, internet radio and educational services.

Support Destee.com financially and then I may be open to networking.
 

abdurratln

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OmowaleX said:
Perhaps, as a start, you put your money up as I have done HERE and become a premium MEMBER.

I already own and operate about 14 websites with an international "social network" and am in the process of developing 3 business enterprises which focus on publishing, internet radio and educational services.

Support Destee.com financially and then I may be open to networking.
Perhaps you should avoid telling other Africans what to do and not to do with their hard earned money; if they happen to have any, which is doubtful.

Beisdes, Pan-Africanism is not about mercantilism. It is about Nkrumahis-Tureist Economics, however. There is a difference. One major difference is a sincere desire to accomplish the Economic Development of the African Nation.

Let me also point out that not all privileges and benefits can be reduced to mere dollars and cents.

But, I am sure that you will be next to impossible to convince. Too arrogant to learn from mistakes.

For the record, I do wholeheartedly and unconditionally support Destee.com. But, I will not publish any details here because to do so would imply that I desire some control or undue influence over this very good and positve example of an African business. I do not. If I can only invest in a project in expectation of some immediate gratification, then to me that is not a wholesome or legitimate motive. Not all Africans are prostitutes. And, we ought to learn not to expect everybody to be prostitutes.

I am glad to see that you own webpages. That is good. I wish you had said so earlier, instead of resorting to low level discourse, mistakenly thinking that you could intimidate me. You should have been trying to give some positive advise and show me the best way to break into this business.

Well, I am in it now. No thanks to you, unfortunately. Even so, as a real and sincere Pan-Africanist, I once again make it clear to all in the audience that I am not and do not expect to fly solo. There are several new African own media companies poppimg up all over the world. The time will soon arrive when we must begin to bring these various companies together in some format to advance the Unification and Development of Africa and Arabia. I am open to work with any African and every African towards these objectives. I do not care if you a Republican or Democrat, Socialist or Communist I do no care if you are a Christian, Jew or Muslim. I do not care if you have brown skin or black skin. I do not care if you are male or female. I do not care if you are short or tall. I do not care if you are pretty or ugly. I do do not care if you are smart or stupid. All I care about is your ability to benefit Africa: Africans for Africa
 

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"Reverse racism as learned and practiced from the University of Tell Aviv, if you asks me."

Let me give you a Personal Ourstorical Lesson..

First of all,

My name is OMOWALE JABALI.

I did not "learn" and "practice" anything from the University of Tel Aviv, but I did attend UCLA which has a similar "jewish" population..

It was at UCLA that I JOINED the A-APRP in 1978.

I was Program Coodinator, belonged to a CADRE Work-study group, even though I was not yet Cadre.

I was also the Site Proogram COORDINATOR at UCLA which means that I CO-ORDINATED ALL on site Program Committe activities, specifically Recruitment of new Work Study members AND Speaking tours for Kwame Ture and Bob Brown.

I was also CO-ORDINATOR for the California ALD Task Force.

I was also an Editorial Board member and Managing and International News EDITOR for NOMMO, UCLA's BLACk student newspaper.

I was also a FOUNDER of the South African Task force and a LEADER of the anti-apartheid and Divestment Movement.

It was from the Education Committe of the SATF that I FOUNDED the AFRICAN Education Project, along with sister LaTanya Olive.

It was through these organizations and community programs that I was a FOUNDER of South African Solidarity Day in 1983, which later evolved into Azanian Solidarity Day in 1987-89.

I was also a FOUNDING MEMBER of the Los Angeles chapter of the NATIONAL AFRICAN YOUTH STUDENT ALLIANCE (NAYSA), which was started by Lisa Williamson (Sista Soulja).

I also was a FOUNDING MEMBER of the Black United Front of Los Angeles (BUFLA).

It was through my EXPERIENCE with BUFLA that I came to question the idea of a "political FRONT" through direct, first-hand EXPERIENCE.

It was also as an Organizer of the African Student Union at UCLA, and NAYSA that in 1988 sponsored the speaking tour of Louis Farrakhan AND the "get Busy" tour featuring Stetsasonic and Public Enemy.

The press coverage and mis-information campaign of the "Daily Bruin" sparked a number of Student Protests which I LED efforts to EXPOSE the ZIONIST media on campus, which extended into local media coverage.

NAYSA and the ASU were DIRETLY confronted by irv rubin and the jewish defense league (JDO) and the jewish defense organization (JDO).

My "brothers" and "sisters" and myself came under attack which also was extended to our positions as peer tutors and counselors in the Academic Advancement Program (AAP). This also sparked a number of student protests.

As a LEADER of the anti-Apartheid movement I COORDINATED a student TAKEOVER (1985-86) of the administration building (Murphy Hall), which led to the erection of MANDELA CITY, which was a student "tent city" we created on campus and LED a SUCCESSFUL DIVESTMENT MOVEMENT which resulted in DIVESTMENT of $50 MILLION dollars from companies dosing business in South Africa but also from university diret-investment in south africa's MAIN trading partner, the zionist-state of israel.

So, if I DID learn anything from the "university of tel aviv" it was how to DEFEAT zionist corporations and educational institutions, which not only LED to the DEFEAT of the racist afrikaner regime, but also changes at the united nations level which later equated zionist israel as an APARTHEID REGIME!

So, while you attempt to defame me while expousing empty rhetoric, I am a LEADER in my own right and left the A-APRP after 3 years because it was still stuck at low level recruitment of work study groups while I was LEADING a MAJOR, National Liberation MOVEMENT!

Back in those days, the A-APRP "central committe" were a group of overaged, POT SMOKERS and ALCOHOLICS and Black Panter Party "internationalist" RENEGADES who were EXPELLED from the Main Chapter of the BPP, and were "followers" of that PIG Eldredge Cleaver, which explains their link to Sekou Toure, because they fled Algeria and went into Guinea.

You picked the WRONG Black MAN to f-with!

I can EXPOSE more of your faulty "Nkrumah-Tureism" is need be, which will shed a lot more light on WHY your "front" is virtually DEFUNCT before it gets off the ground.

We can begin with the allegde "poisoning" of Kwame by another "central committe" member based in Atlanta who was the person MOST RESPONSIBLE for the cry of "Black Power"....

Considering that SOME folks who are still here, and some who are no longer here, but on another site, I am SURE some folks would LOVE to hear some of that information...

Just one example....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukasa_Dada

I was envolved in:
Nommo (1978-90)
BSA/ASU (1978-90)
African Education Project (1981-90)
Community Programs (1980-90)
SATF (1981-84)
African Acivists Association (1978-80)
Free South Africa Movement (FSAM) (1983-92)
NAYSA (1987-89)

Just to name a few....

Just "google" OMOWALE JABALI and results will give numerous links to various websites, including an article by the UCLA ALUMNI ASSOCIATION and if you didg deeper check the NOMMO archives and READ the multitude of articles and essays I PUBLISHED 20-30 years ago!

And this is as an undergraduate AND graduate political science and education major. Thus a sampling of my STUDENT ORGANIZING "career".

The work I have done since in the local COMMUNITY involving Gang-Intervention (GRIPP), Black Business Development (Leimert Park merchant's Association), Community BUILDING (Monterey Hills Homeowner's Federation) and as a United Teachers of Los Angeles (UTLA) and Lynwood teacher's association (LTA) SITE Chapter CHAIR, and my local NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL, is another, extensive "track record" of community organizing, as is my present involvment on a STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTE at my LOCAL, School DISTRICT level.....

I LAUGH at you because....your arms are way "too short" to box with THIS "GOD"!

And at my age, I probably still have the ability to post you up, take you to the hole and SCORE at My Will....
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How embarrassing that you remember, remember Sister Soulja. In the other thread, I asked rhetorically, not knowing that you would reminisce.

You seemed against the AAPRP--are you still so?

A friend of mine, in her seventies, remarked that they were here a long time and aren't doing much. She said the same of the UNIA and ACL. Is this your sort of criticism too?

It's lousy how much is done for us and how little it matters.

But . . .


African Affirmation
We are an African People
Robbed from our Homeland
Robbed of our Names
Our Languages
Our Cultures
Our Religions
Our Womanhood
Our Manhood
Our Sisterhood
Our Brotherhood
Our Motherhood
Our Fatherhood
Our Selfhood
Our Nationhood
And our Self-Respect
But We Shall Rise!
Never to Fall Again!
Up You Mighty Race!
You Can Accomplish What You Will!
No Justice! No Peace!
No Justice! No Peace!​
 

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The Arabs are what would unite Africans, as they could be used as an external threat common to all Africans. Pan-Africanism will only prevail at the expense of the Arabs. Simple reality. Massive territorial expansion can be achieved at their expense, plus it is necessary to reclaim at least part of Southern Egypt. Arabs are natural but forgotten enemies of Africa. Fighting them is also necessarily to develop military skills.
 

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Interesting you would try to label me as a agent, of all things, zionism.

:laugh:

If anyone checks with the people I mentioned none can PROVE me to be a zionism sympathizer.

I worked with folks who got PURGED from Radio KPFK such as Ron Wilkins (also known as Brother Crook) Sister Omowale Folkes, Sister Asumpta Toure, Mandla Kayise, Nosizwe Chimurenga and brother Kamal Hassan, who also was a member of the New African People's Organization and a teacher at the Marcus Garvey School which was one of the main sites that the AEP services.

"Do something productive for a change."

LOL...!!

You can not match ANYTHING I have done or that I AM doing in the service of Pan-Africanism....

NOTHING!
Among all non-blacks, I view Jews less negatively. In my mind it is possible to use Israel as a hammer and sub-Saharan Africa as an anvil for Arab North Africa.
 

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Among all non-blacks, I view Jews less negatively. In my mind it is possible to use Israel as a hammer and sub-Saharan Africa as an anvil for Arab North Africa.
I didn't say anything about Jews.

I said Zionists. Zionism is one of the greatest threats to the stability of Africa.

Zionists are the union of Israeli and Europeon (British and American) imperialism and they are monopolists bent on the destabilization and raping of Africa's natural resources.
 

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What is embarrasing about my "reminescense"?

I was just sharing with you so you get a better idea of why I may seem pessimistic to you as far as the struggle is concerned. You see, I am someone who has withstood and survived the attacks not only to myself and my character, but the leadership which raised me and my 'cadre' and 'family' up. So, when you see my disagreement with one/some in these threads on issues such as 'solutions' or when I deal with critics concerning burying myself in 'history' i share to give you a better idea where i and my adversaries are coming from.

I have no ill will towards any organization working to uplift our people. I bumped this thread to give YOU and idea of the kind of strugle that has gone on here concerning the struggle for or against Pan Africanism.

I have stated that I used to be a hard core Pan Africanist. I identified as an Nkrumahist. This was before reality set in and i realized that no one is organizing what Dr. Nkrumah referred as an 'All African Vanguard, working-class party'.

I was part of a NATIONAL BLACK/AFRICAN STUDENT LEADERSHIP which was more revolutionary and pro-active than virtually every so-called revolutionary Party or organization during the late 80s. These organizations were trying to, and in some cases were successful in pimping out our leadership. Not where I was from. We learned from John Huggins and Bunchy Carter. We carried that legacy when others co-opted. But where did it get us?

Brother, when I left the AAPRP in 1981, I was in the thick of it and struggle was intensifying on my front. I had no time to submit myself to an undisciplined group of outdated 60s activists who were dividing our youth with their own petty agendas. Folks who would get drunk and stoned outta their minds, and having sex orgies at party functions and fundraisers.

And once I got wind of rumors concerning brother Kwame's health, that did it for me. It made me stop that ganja smokin I was doing
and made me more focused and ideologically disciplined. This is what I mean by the enemy within. Our own corruptable nature which the other man exploits.

The brother who was debating me in this thread made numerous statements that were not true. He claims that he met me and I was nowhere near that organization in 1990. I left in 1981 and co-founded the SATF at UCLA right after ALD 81. We provided direct material aid to the liberation movements. I met with ANC, PAC and SWAPO officials at the UN level. Organized conferences with their highest diplomats and officials in the US. Along with members of the BCM and AZAPO.

So, please, if we gonna talk about Pan Africanism, lets talk about BUILDING organizational frameworks capable of organizing and mobilizing the MASSES of African people, on a GLOBAL basis.

Peace!
Brother, I meant that I am embarrassed. I mentioned Sister Soulja, not knowing that you personally knew her. It's embarrassing for me to misspeak.

Still, it's good to read more about you. Our ancestors work in mysterious ways. :)
 

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