Black Atheists : It's impossible to be an Atheist from an (general) African perspective

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Because how 'god' is defined in many African spiritual traditions, it is virtually impossible to be an Atheist in an African perspective. The label "atheist" really only applies to non-African spiritual traditions.
 

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Because how 'god' is defined in many African spiritual traditions, it is virtually impossible to be an Atheist in an African perspective.
The label "atheist" really only applies to non-African spiritual traditions.
it is probably best not to define what people can or cannot be.

that only shines light on your own ignorance.
 
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Thank you Mr. James from Philly for your response and commentary. In reply, it is equally an illumination on one's ignorance to comment in the way you did without first, at least, asking about how African people define "deity" (in general) and "god" (in particular). Let's take a basic definition of a "atheism" from Wiki.

Atheism is, in the broadest sense, an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists.
Provided the above, it is clear that one could not be an atheist, for example, in the Bakongo, Kalenjiin, Amazulu, Akan, or ancient Egyptian belief systems. "God" is defined in these wisdom-traditions as "existence itself." God is described as an "infinity." Therefore, nothing can exist outside the Infinity: everything exists within the Infinity (there is no such thing as supernatural). Since God is 'existence' (e.g., Ukobo in isiZulu), then you cannot be an a-theist in these traditions because one cannot exist and then deny that existence doesn't exist, even one's very own existence. The point being is that Black people have entered many European arguments uncritically and have adopted their worldview and labels. In a tradition where God is existence itself, then one cannot exist (as a part of the existant) and then deny one's own existence, and by extention God itself.

You have a good day sir.
 

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Thank you Mr. James from Philly for your response and commentary. In reply, it is equally an illumination on one's ignorance to comment in the way you did without first, at least, asking about how African people define "deity" (in general) and "god" (in particular). Let's take a basic definition of a "atheism" from Wiki.



Provided the above, it is clear that one could not be an atheist, for example, in the Bakongo, Kalenjiin, Amazulu, Akan, or ancient Egyptian belief systems. "God" is defined in these wisdom-traditions as "existence itself." God is described as an "infinity." Therefore, nothing can exist outside the Infinity: everything exists within the Infinity (there is no such thing as supernatural). Since God is 'existence' (e.g., Ukobo in isiZulu), then you cannot be an a-theist in these traditions because one cannot exist and then deny that existence doesn't exist, even one's very own existence. The point being is that Black people have entered many European arguments uncritically and have adopted their worldview and labels. In a tradition where God is existence itself, then one cannot exist (as a part of the existant) and then deny one's own existence, and by extention God itself.

You have a good day sir.
i notice that you take the position that anyone who does not agree with you is ignorant.
 

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Greetings. Can you please quote the exact line upon which you got that interpretation based on my statement(s)? Thank you in advance sir.
 

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