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Symbol of America

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It is of note that none of the vids included any of the guardian breeds other than the Bernese, a breed by the way whose temperament has been bred almost entirely away by the AKC. The Bernese known in todays world can be liken to that of the goofy Golden Retriever so beloved by seemingly everybody, another fine breed, that oh by the way, the AKC completely f'ked up along with any other breed they could get their paws on.
Even within the guardian working group though if the dog is expected to do (what I call) 'man work' an unbreakable temperament and steel nerves along with a level head (sanity) need to be searched for in the individual dog. Not all guardian dogs have that capacity but looking at those groups will give you the best shot at finding the one or two that have the qualities for that kind of highly stressful work. IF that is what your looking for, THEN unless you've got some experience yourself on properly bringing along and controlling a dog of that nature be prepare to pay someone (plenty) to help you train that dog and spend a good deal of any given day towards working one on one with the dog aiming towards building a trust and forming as a bonded wedded team. Otherwise you'll either break (ruin) the dog or the dog will break you. Honestly, be careful what you wish for.
That's all just IMHO of course.

I'll add kind of a funny dog story relative to the protector theme.
I have a friend whose family adopted a past his working life Chesapeake Retriever as a family guardian. And he was indeed a ferocious guardian of that there was no doubt he wasn't going to be taken on lightly by anyone.....unless the intruder happen to be carrying a gun. LOL!
Then the dog became your best friend in the world. Oh boy let's go hunting!!!!!!!!
Too funny. Some of my guardians were pretty animalistic when it came to disciplining me. LORD now I fully understand the lament of the Parochial School students. Being the self absorbed elitist that a great many members in good standing with the AKC having been under the knife of personal improvement themselves in the name of fame, grace and vanity have no qualms putting their 4 legged children under the butchers knife to win at all cost either. Whatever it takes to grace their mantels with trophies, medals, blue ribbons and other trinkets that are the coveted objet d'art of that ilk.

Part 1of 2: The shame.

https://thebark.com/content/does-akc-deserve-bad-press

www.thedogpress.com/clubnews/index.asp

https://nypost.com/2013/10/18/american-kennel-club-socked-with-suit-by-breeders/

https://bestfriends.org/blogs/2013/05/01/nbc-report-exposes-akc

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/american-kennel-club-peta_b_2634329

https://caninechronicle.com/uncategorized/constructive-solutions-to-akc-woes/

https://positively.com/contributors/california-vs-akc/

https://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/akc-registrations-continue-decline

https://friendsofanimals.org/article/puppy-mills-pet-shops-and-the-akc-basic-facts/

https://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,163404,00.html

https://www.oregonlive.com/pets/2014/02/akc_hopes_to_clarify_common_mi.html

https://www.peta.org/blog/akc-kills-shelter-dogs-chances-life/

www.funpawcare.com/2013/02/07/akc-hoax/

https://www.wral.com/5onyourside/video/4880930/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Kennel_Club
 
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Even as a registry the AKC stinks. The AKC papers I've got go back only about three generations. (if that)
Comparing that to what I have from the FCI and the SV registries* though makes the AKC papers look more like bad refrigerator art suitable only for kindling a fire on a chilly morning.

Oh, you have a dog/s I might be interested in?
You **** well better have more linage than 3 or 4 gens. for me to look at.

*the SV isn't far behind the AKC in screwing up the dog but they are trying to sort it out while the AKC still has their head up their *** in the typical American fashion.
 

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SOA, do you have dogs?
If so are they of working lines or of the flat goo gaga AKC variety?

My last GSD I worked as SAR but we never went into service because I wouldn't have been able to limit the times I could be called out to rescue just those that deserved to be rescued because most of the call outs would be to save those that are too stupid and should've known known better to begin with. (I call it Darwin's law)
Here a picture of her on a trail laid about 4 hours before;
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She was kind of a wonder to me, she'd air scent if she could but would put her nose down and step track if she couldn't follow the scent any other way.
She was high over the top prey/play driven and lived for her nose.
 

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SOA, do you have dogs?
If so are they of working lines or of the flat goo gaga AKC variety?

My last GSD I worked as SAR but we never went into service because I wouldn't have been able to limit the times I could be called out to rescue just those that deserved to be rescued because most of the call outs would be to save those that are too stupid and should've known known better to begin with. (I call it Darwin's law)
Here a picture of her on a trail laid about 4 hours before;
View attachment 17153

She was kind of a wonder to me, she'd air scent if she could but would put her nose down and step track if she couldn't follow the scent any other way.
She was high over the top prey/play driven and lived for her nose.
No, not anymore. Miss them though.
 

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