Thanks youngblackceo. There is no economic benefit in trying to make my points here. I continue to make my points by the actions I take to help my people in Africa recover. But for the sake of enlightenment I will engage in this reply to my message.
Borther, those talking points sounds awfully familiar. Again, like the case of slavery in which it is popularly used, the "willing African participants" are such a small minority, that an indictment on the entire African continent is criminal at best.kemetkind said:Brother militant I'm not judging anybody. Euros are using under-handed tactics sure but they need some willing AFRICAN participants.
Read your posts about African issues, and then read your same posts about Diaporan black issues. The only person on this forum I know who seems to have the same hardline "black must take responsiblity" view regardless of ethnicity, is a certain lady whose name escapes me. And I appreciate her lack of bias.Brother are you judging my heart? Of course I'm removed I don't live in Africa. But the same enemy within is right here too. Nothing about it is funny and I've never made light of it.
I know of no post of yours which use those words.I didn't ask you not to Blame whitey I'm telling you Blaming whitey hasn't gotten black folks anywhere in the world ANYTHING.That's why I'm so tired of hearing it.
Oh My God, you sound so much like those african immigrants, you really have to meet up with them. You all want blacks to take responsiblity for their problems. They made the same disgusting arguments with regards to the victims in Katrina. I believe you will get along with them.....NOT!!! Both you and they use such noble words of self-responsiblity when it does not apply to their own ethnicity.If you sit down and think about it taking responsibility for the solution is more revolutionary than laying everything down at the foot of the white man and hoping he'll change.
None of your posts where you have such views on blacks anywhere outside Africa are memorable. Like I said, show me one! What you need to do is take a book about African history post-colonialism and READ IT!! Do you think the Icons of African liberation became free so that their people ould suffer? PATRICE LUMUMBA USED THE WORDS "ALL AFRICANS SHOULD CONTROL AFRICAN RESOURCES" in the 1950s!! But that cant happen if a certain Kemestry was to access the internet in 2006 thanks to stolen african resources, only to blame Africans for not wanting to take responsiblities. He was assasinated by outsiders and rogue government was instilled in the nation of Congo!How am I self-righteous? I'm not judging Africans - I don't have any different opinion of how we right here in America should address our issues. It may sound cold but somebody needs to say it because all this sentimental romanticism and ego massage while NOT recognizing OUR OWN PEOPLE's role in our destruction is LITERALLY killing us.
I appreciate your honesty. Rather that than fake compassion.I am not a white liberal so I'm impervious to guilt trips.
And may that same God repay those whose resources were exploited!!I am on the internet by the grace of god who provided (my ancestors before and) me the opportunity, talent and motivation to work hard and make a way.
Again, your inability to think outside your own nation. Now you acknowledge racism only in the American context. You had the opportunity to be twice as good. Thats what these same African immigrants I argue with say. They say that in a land of opportunities, how can people still be poor and live in the ghettos. Are you saying those africans in Africa have the exact same opportunities as you?Didn't nobody give me nothing and I've had to be twice as good as the white, indian or chinese I'm competing with just to maintain....so nah
Hehe...How far can you go with this?- I'm not about to feel like my lifestyle causes these black-skinned nigerian rulers to kill their own people over money. The answer is not for me to be as down-trodden as them to relieve my guilt.
Then would you please factor it in. Do you honeslty believe in your heart of hearts, that if an African nation was to rise the way China is doinf, that no efforts will be made to twart its rise?I don't deny Euros have had devilish intent inside of Africa for a long, long time, as they have in most the world.
You are unbelievable!! For the same da/mn reason there is preferential treatment in America, the same to which you admitted in "I've had to be twice as good as the white, indian or chinese I'm competing with just to maintain". There is investment, and outsourcing going to India and China. Infact, these Indians and chinese were actively trained so that they could partake in the outsourcing. Ghana, Nigeria and South Africa all have viable IT workers who could participate in this outsourcing. But NO! There are no jobs from your country going to them. Niether is investment, because once there is famine in Kenya, the whole Africa is painted as a bad investment spot. GOOD.....GOD....IS THERE AN END TO THIS?But there is a reason they don't get fantastic results anymore with those tactics in china, or india...
Hehe.... By the way are you a Reverend Jesse Peterson or Bill Cosby fan by any chance? You couldnt be if you are on Destee.com!they don't have too many willing chinese ready to sell out, and if one did, you wouldn't have chinese apologists wringing their hands blaming white folks instead DEALING WITH their enemy within.
I thought as much. I never expected better from you.Na - I see the pan-africanist point of view. It's defined differently by different people. When it's defined to include DEALING WITH your enemy, no matter WHAT his/her skin tone or hair texture might be because there is a specific goal - unification of african groups individually, then collectively, I can respect it and get motivated to work towards it.
Yeah, I thought as much, I never expected better of you.This romantic, "All dark-skinned, kinky-haired people in the world are one country - so let's just love each other unconditionally" - i'm not feelin that.
It's fairy tale.
Hehe....If I got a dime for the number of times I have heard this. Look, I never force anyone to be one with me. I know there will always be recalcitrant types, who give excuse for their coldness towards Africans including such talking points like "You sould us into slavery".Internal enemies are allowed to skate on the basis of their biology alone. Real ethnic groups that really do have a shared culture WILL exist whether we get romantic about it or not.
Hehe...whatever. I wont even bother to decipher.Our families are in a jungle. We engage in battle with the leopards so we keep guard over our gate each night. We know the leopards are our enemy - their spots never change.
If one night you, one of our family, make a deal with the leopards and decide to go open the gate.... a romantic pan-africanism doesn't let me take your life same as I do the leopards. It just relegates me to whining and complaining that the leopards got in and wreaked havoc on the family. Let's me make excuses for you while lamenting that the Leopard, with the same spots, still killing my family. So, soon as I get the gate back closed another in my family, seeing the benefits you got, makes another deal to open it up and the cycle continues.