Black People : Can Black People Be Racist

indya

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Every culture has been enslaved by another. No matter who your ancesters are they have been enslaved and have enslaved others! By your statement no one other than Native Americans should own the land here. Now, does this give Native Americans the right to slaughter everyone to get this continant back? So by your own addmission no one owns land legally here in the US. Native Americans would be justified in killing everyone for what there fathers did, if you were forced here or came willingly. Would you give your home and land up to make things right for them? Or do you feel you are entitled to your home because your family has been here for generations?

I hate to take off your rose colored glasses, but if Afrika was so wonderful the Hutus and Tutsies wouldn't be killing each other because of the tribe they belong to. Now obviously these folks aren't racist against each other, but obviously intollerant of there presence, and would love to dominate and control or erradicate. By the way this is the stated definition of racism.

Personnaly I'm glad to be in this country where we can disagree and not be killed for it. If you traveled outside of the country I think you would realize how good we have it here. There is a long way to go in this country, there is no doubt, racism in this country and will probably always be there. We can be racist, admit it and move on.
 

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i'M GOING TO CONCEDE THAT YOU ARE EITHER YOUNG OR ARE LACKING ALL THE INFORMATION HISTORICALLY AND GEO POLITICALLY CONCERNING WORLD EVENTS. THE HUTU CONFLICT WAS NOY ONLY TRIBAL AS OPPOSED TO RACIAL, BUT WAS INITIATED BY THE WHITE MAN. NOW, AS A STUDENT OR STUDIER OF AFRICAN REALITY, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL ME HOW THE EUROPEAN (WHITE MAN ) PLAYED INTO THAT CONFLICT.

IF YOU CAN NOT, I MUST TERMINATE THIS CONVERSATION, FOR I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU. FOR RACISM HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS TOO.
 

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We had this discussion in a sociology class I took a couple years back. We agreed with what one writter had decided (dont ask the name):

Visible minorities can be bigoted....but not racist as they dont have the means to act on any racist feelings (bigotry) they may have. Commiting an act of racism requires a certain power.
 

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indya said:
Every culture has been enslaved by another. No matter who your ancesters are they have been enslaved and have enslaved others! By your statement no one other than Native Americans should own the land here. Now, does this give Native Americans the right to slaughter everyone to get this continant back? So by your own addmission no one owns land legally here in the US. Native Americans would be justified in killing everyone for what there fathers did, if you were forced here or came willingly. Would you give your home and land up to make things right for them? Or do you feel you are entitled to your home because your family has been here for generations?

I hate to take off your rose colored glasses, but if Afrika was so wonderful the Hutus and Tutsies wouldn't be killing each other because of the tribe they belong to. Now obviously these folks aren't racist against each other, but obviously intollerant of there presence, and would love to dominate and control or erradicate. By the way this is the stated definition of racism.

Personnaly I'm glad to be in this country where we can disagree and not be killed for it. If you traveled outside of the country I think you would realize how good we have it here. There is a long way to go in this country, there is no doubt, racism in this country and will probably always be there. We can be racist, admit it and move on.


Sister Indya, I don't have to admit zero, and I was "moved on" long before the convo started(smile!) I told you that I don't believe in no concept such as race, so that should tell you I was LONG AGO MOVED ON... You gots to move from that concept, one constructed for you by the former slavemaster...

Secondly, yes, I do believe that were it decreed that i must give up any land ownership to the Indigenous Peoples of the United States, I would do it, which would preclude the need for bloodshed and killing... The Africans on the continent are doing what should've been done a LONG TiME ago, and that is kicking the European OFF THE CONTINENT, where, as Malcolm said, you must've left your mind... How in hell you talking about how great America is because you can speak your mind without losing your life - and how long has that been, Sista Woman??? I'd of loved to see you speaking your mind down in Alabama and Mississippi without some serious National Guardsmen protecting your behind 44 years ago... You heard of Fannie Lou Hamer, she spoke her mind too, but not without paying a price for doing so... Heard of Ida B. Wells-Barnett, she spoke her mind, too, but she had to get outta town before the lynch mob came and did to her what it had done to her printing press, which they destroyed...

Don't be so quick to spout that my country tis of thee stuff without considering that it is what is because of a lot of blood spilled by our ancestors... Those brothers in Southern African have ASKED those White Farmers to get off the land, and it is precisely because they have been so kind and humble that those white farmers have played themselves.... They believe that these are the same old sweet, humble, loving Africans they've always known, and miscalculated the level of intense feelings of resentment the Africans are feeling about centuries of preferential treatment afforded these foreign invaders... The difference between the Indigenous peoples of this country, and the Africans in south Africa is that those Africans won wars of liberation, and the Indigenous man lost his...

You nor I can change that... That is the way of the world, sister... In a perfect world, these whites would never have gone around the planet imposing their will at the barrel of a gun... They, however, did what they did, and according to the laws of the Universe, they must pay for that...
We can go on forever moralizing, but we aint gone change the law - not the one that governs the universe... Let it be, and it will be done...

Peace!
Isaiah
 

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