Brother Pan ... haaaaaay ...
Brother Pan ... are you saying to even discuss, broach, the topic of the glaring failure of Black Fathers, means we're attempting to shame them into doing right ... and we should not do it?
First, i don't think Brother Black Squared is trying to shame them into doing the right thing. I don't think shaming them (even if one tried that), with a discussion about the great devastation they are causing to the Black Family, Black Children, and Black Community, will even move them. If their child growing up with all of the losses caused by their absence doesn't shame them to act, a discussion on a forum certainly won't do it. There are a multitude of great collective costs associated with Black Fathers not being present with their children, and absolutely none of that has shamed them into doing the right thing, but you think a discussion on a forum is going to do that?
If shaming them (as you call it) on a discussion forum, by talking about the reality of their actions, and how they impact the whole, would possibly move them to do better ... we should have done it years ago.
I think we all know that talking about the challenges our children, Families, and communities are currently experiencing must be done.
Yeah, it may be a bitter cup to drink from, but continuing to stick our heads in the sand ... never speaking on the atrocities we do to our own ... is negligent.
Brother Pan ... it's almost like you want to protect these Brothers from any shame, while they choose to do shameful things.
We have many threads here talking about Single Mothers, and i've never seen anyone come running to protect them from any possible shame associated with a discussion surrounding their bad behavior. While i've not counted, i bet there are a gazillion more threads talking about Black Mothers, than Black Fathers. There is a thread about 115 Young Black Ladies in a Chicago high school being pregnant. Now i've not read that thread, but i'd bet you a whole year of Premium Membership ... there is not one Brother in that thread, mentioning the fact that there are probably 115 Young Black Men that have also done the wrong thing. We can talk about Sisters bad behavior, but not Brothers? I hope i lose the bet, as it would show that progress is being made, Brothers willing to discuss and face their collective shortcomings ... but i doubt that's gonna happen.
I appreciate Brother Black Squared for starting this thread, broaching this topic, for it must be done. Not only must it be done, but it must be done by Black Men.
This will never change if Black Men who know better, and do better, continue to coddle and protect their peers ... never addressing the issue.
Brother Pan ... you ask, will shaming Brothers get them to do right?
And i ask ... what will get them to do right regarding the children they create?
The situation is so dire now, i'm willing to do anything that will work ... what will work ... anything ... i'll use it.
Always a pleasure to have you back in the house ... ... Love You!