Pan-Africanism : Are You African or African American?

Are You "African" or "African American?"

  • I am African.

    Votes: 83 46.4%
  • I am African American.

    Votes: 52 29.1%
  • none of the above

    Votes: 44 24.6%

  • Total voters
    179

pdiane

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"Us African American toubabs have made it possible for them to come to this badboy, and attend schools, live in neighborhoods, and earn a living they could not on the continent... Yes, they should be quite grateful for that, as it all came at great pain and cost to my ancestors... For them, or anyone else, to fix their faces in an arrogant and scornful mask of derision toward my people and theirs, tells me they are in need of an education that begs much more than what they can ever receive at Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, dig...(smile!) I will NEVER accept anything less than their respect, and I will NEVER make excuses for anyone who insults me. I don't do it for White Man, "


I am so there with you Brother Isiah, I think the difficulty is that we as Africans in amerikkka have this attitude that "we ain't no savage, poor, starving african" and that makes it very hard for us to get along as a people.

All of us are victims of media literacy in which Africans come here thinking we are a bunch of gangsta hip hop criminals who are lazy, when we think of Africans as opportunists who hate us.

Both groups suffer from white supremacy and self-hate to the degree that we disrepect each other.

Someone has to open up, someone has to say. Stop this madness. I do that in my community and it works. It is almost as if Africans are on the defensive because they come across ignorant so called African-amerikkkans who loathe them, look down on them and say derogatory things to them. They stereotype us and lash out at us like they have done to Sister Toylin.

We have an African sisters group in Boston. Dance and culture bring us together. We eat a look at videos at eat others house. We give each other parties, organize all types of cultural events. I would like to invite Toylin and you brother to Boston to see what we are doing here.

When Africans arrive in the u.s., we are in the position of power. We have businesses, we have churches, we have homes, we have great authors, schools. So to me it is up to us to break the ice and say, exactly what you said above, but follow up with that with events and venues to bring us together. Do you understand what I am saying brother?

If an African told me that I ain't a Muslim or an African, I would proceed to not just let him know that our ancestors paved the way for him to step foot in this country but start a dialogue with him and try to show him that he is a victim of media literacy. I find most Africans are open to this. Most people are open to Love brother.

We are giving up too easy on our brothers and sisters from Africa, yet talking about them like dogs. We don't do that to white folks. We are patient with them, we love them. No matter what they do to us.

When the last time you had an African in our homes, to discuss these issues. I do it all the time.

If we did we would be a lot further along in being indepedent from our mental slavery.

Notice Brother ISiah, I did not include "i will not do it for a Black Man". Peace and Love to you.
 

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"I will NEVER make excuses for anyone who insults me. I don't do it for White Man, I will not do it for BlacK Man..." That's my quote, and I stand by it...

My beautiful sister, are you saying that I should smile, and make light of it when a Black Man slaps me in the face - because he is Black??? No, my beautiful sister, I will not tolerate any human being slapping me in the face - period... I don't extend my person as a welcome mat to be walked on by African people, or any people... When folk act as the hammer using you as a nail, they will hammer you as long as you behave like a nail(smile!) I am not in the habit of trying to please and appease people solely based on their ethnicity, even if we are of the same ethnicity... I give respect where respect is due, and basic respect of all humanity is due, in my humble judgement...

My beautiful sister, I understand that you have your points of view on this, and I have mine... Here in New York City, Continental Africans have staked a claim on Harlem, the so-called cultural mecca of African Americans in the United States... They are there because they were welcomed there - though I admit, not always with open arms... That's not always attributable to self-hatred, however... When you move into an already crowded environment, sometimes you rub the present and previous occupants the wrong way(smile!)

I agree with you that there is a great deal of ignorance on both sides on this situation, but I believe that Africans coming to these shores need to become better aquainted with our history and culture in this country... Like I said, it stings and hurts to be treated by your own as if you are their enemy... Perhaps that is what African Americans respond to... We have Diasporan Africans and Continental Africans coming to this nation which our ancestors hands built, and behaving no differently toward us that a white man... How should we respond to that??? Have our people not been slapped enough??? I think, quite frankly, we have... We have extended the welcome mat to others, and now I would like to see Continental Africans extend that welcome mat to Africans from the New World... Don't ask us for one dime... Just extend that welcome mat... I'll be waiting...(smile!)

Peace!
Isaiah
 

Chucky

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We are Black in my opinion. Black: The displaced people in America of African ancestry lost in the diaspora.
 

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oldsoul said:
Please click the link below to see how this subject is being dealt with by white people with enormous influence in our community...

Oh My Gosh !!! I've seen it all now !!! Man ... thank you for this Brother OldSoul!

Family, yall need to check that link out above, be sure to enlarge the picture so you can read the text ... man oh man oh man ... here's the link again ... http://whgbetc.com/hennessyad.jpg

aint nuth'n else i can say ... just visit the link Family.

Thanks again Brother OldSoul.

:heart:

Destee
 
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