The Police : American Cops Now Steal More Property Than All US Burglars Combined

ceebee

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From Activist Post:

For decades now, federal government and their cohorts in law enforcement have been carrying out theft of the citizenry on a massive scale. We’re not talking about taxes, but an insidious power known as Civil Asset Forfeiture (CAF).
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In 2008, law enforcement took over $1.5 billion from the American public. While this number seems incredibly large, just a few years later, in 2014, that number tripled to nearly $4.5 billion.
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To put this number into perspective, according to the FBI, victims of burglary offenses suffered an estimated $3.9 billion in property losses in 2014.
Full story: http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/american-cops-now-steal-more-property-than-all-us-burglars-combined.html
 

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Full of links, I think the numbers speak for themselves.
I found this on reddit, so there is an intense conversation (5000+ comments)
and in particular a few addressing what we as the people can DO about this.
 

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Full of links, I think the numbers speak for themselves.
I found this on reddit, so there is an intense conversation (5000+ comments)
and in particular a few addressing what we as the people can DO about this.


Is there any veracity to this? As far as you know, is this a part of the intense conversation on reddit?



GOP-led Congress rams civil asset forfeiture reform right down police unions’ throats


Yes, I am so totally assigning credit to the Republicans in Congress for this one. To recap the situation: civil asset forfeiture is when state and local cops seize stuff deemed to be part of a criminal case and then use it to eke out their own budgets. The situation is ripe for abuse, particularly since the rules used to allow cops to make a federal case out of it (state laws are much stricter on what’s a legitimate asset seizure than the federal laws are). But the Justice Department has stopped up the loophole that state and local cops were exploiting. Why? Because the new budget took away the money that the Justice Department was using for that program.

And yes, this was deliberate. From the DoJ letter explaining the new situation:

http://www.redstate.com/2015/12/27/civil-asset-forfeiture-congress/

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ceebee

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Wow, very timely. :)
There's a difference between civil and criminal forfeiture though;
and I can't see what removing money for forfeiture programs does,
as police departments seem to get substantial money *from* the
thefts, so are the departments going to be suffering losses of
funding from two sides?
 

chuck

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From Activist Post:

For decades now, federal government and their cohorts in law enforcement have been carrying out theft of the citizenry on a massive scale. We’re not talking about taxes, but an insidious power known as Civil Asset Forfeiture (CAF).
...
In 2008, law enforcement took over $1.5 billion from the American public. While this number seems incredibly large, just a few years later, in 2014, that number tripled to nearly $4.5 billion.
...
To put this number into perspective, according to the FBI, victims of burglary offenses suffered an estimated $3.9 billion in property losses in 2014.
Full story: http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/american-cops-now-steal-more-property-than-all-us-burglars-combined.html
Good morning and nice to be kicking it you again too!

But what else on your mind too?

Please do post about that as well!

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The alleged corruption and graft is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg:

Dead black bodies continue to pile up in police morgues too!
 

Clyde C Coger Jr

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Wow, very timely. :)
There's a difference between civil and criminal forfeiture though;
and I can't see what removing money for forfeiture programs does,
as police departments seem to get substantial money *from* the
thefts, so are the departments going to be suffering losses of
funding from two sides?

Good question, keep digging though, you are going an excellent job.


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