Black People : Afrocentricity and the Robbing of Native American Cultures

Hildegard von Krone

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After reading a post about made here about native indians being african (or african influenced), I wanted to share this with you all:

Robbing Native American Cultures: Van Sertima's Afrocentricity and the Olmecs.

http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/current/vansertima.pdf

The closing statement reads as follows:

"For the most part, the Afrocentrists and other cultural nationalist have heartly endorsed Van Sertima's thesis despite its obvious weaknesses in methodology and evidence. Althought they have called for an Afrocentric history that is accurate and well-intentioned, they seem to be more concerned with the need to raise the "self-esteem" of African-Americans, regardless of the impact on other groups. By endorsing Van Sertima's writtings, the Afrocentrists and cultural nationalists have accepted a hegemonic and racialist view of pre-Columbian America that is completely lacking in historical accuracy. They have also accepted a theory and a methodological approach that grossly distort the historical record at the expense of Native Americans. Despite vehement protestations to the contrary, Van Sertima has, in effect, trampled on the self-respect or self-esteem of Native Americans by minimizing ther role as actors in their own history, denigrating their cultures and usurping their contributions to the development of world civilizations."
 

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After reading a post about made here about native indians being african (or african influenced), I wanted to share this with you all:

Robbing Native American Cultures: Van Sertima's Afrocentricity and the Olmecs.

http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/current/vansertima.pdf

The closing statement reads as follows:

"For the most part, the Afrocentrists and other cultural nationalist have heartly endorsed Van Sertima's thesis despite its obvious weaknesses in methodology and evidence. Althought they have called for an Afrocentric history that is accurate and well-intentioned, they seem to be more concerned with the need to raise the "self-esteem" of African-Americans, regardless of the impact on other groups. By endorsing Van Sertima's writtings, the Afrocentrists and cultural nationalists have accepted a hegemonic and racialist view of pre-Columbian America that is completely lacking in historical accuracy. They have also accepted a theory and a methodological approach that grossly distort the historical record at the expense of Native Americans. Despite vehement protestations to the contrary, Van Sertima has, in effect, trampled on the self-respect or self-esteem of Native Americans by minimizing ther role as actors in their own history, denigrating their cultures and usurping their contributions to the development of world civilizations."

I like how you started out here as an innocent white girl from argentina who wanted to spread love and now all of a sudden you have become a race relations expert. Blatant troll if you ask me. Didn't take long for that condescending demeanor to ooze out of your mouth.
 

Hildegard von Krone

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I like how you started out here as an innocent white girl from argentina who wanted to spread love and now all of a sudden you have become a race relations expert. Blatant troll if you ask me.

Did I said I was an expert? No...but reading so many lies and attempts to steal other cultures I could not remain innocent anymore to these offensive claims. You have nothing to add, you see? You only came to attack me and call me names like most people here have done already, and why? because I dont agree with certain things here or because im white? I wish I had never posted my picture or say I was from Argentina, because now I realize it was a mistake on my part, as people here seem to judge other based on what they look like or where they came from...
 

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I am in the library working on a paper entitled the cultural heritage of the amentiu. As someone with African and native American heritage I am sure that the last of my life journey will be affirming this dual legacy and I will not waste time splitting hairs anymore with interlopers bent on launching their weapons of mass detraction but I will stay focused on sharpening my own steel.
 

Zim

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Did I said I was an expert? No...but reading so many lies and attempts to steal other cultures I could not remain innocent anymore to these offensive claims. You have nothing to add, you see? You only came to attack me and call me names like most people here have done already, and why? because I dont agree with certain things here or because im white? I wish I had never posted my picture or say I was from Argentina, because now I realize it was a mistake on my part, as people here seem to judge other based on what they look like or where they came from...

All I'm saying is you are a fraud. Have you yourself read Ivan Van Sertimas works? If not , why are you so eager to denounce them? That seems pretty racist to me - you yourself haven't read them yet you ravenously searched the internet and pasted anything you thought would disprove his theories. I'm not judging you - I'm just convinced that you have an agenda and your posting here isn't as innocent as you make out. You turned into an expert on topics you claim no knowledge of over night. Pretty suspicious behavior if you ask me.
 

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