Black People : Juneteenth

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  1. butterfly#1

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    Oh the irony of it--- all Dallas County commissioners unanimously passed a Juneteenth resolution on Tuesday that appeared to be another routine proclamation commemorating the end of slavery in the United States. But the resolution went further by including a list of injustices, and then stating in the final paragraph that blacks' suffering should be "satisfied with monetary and substantial reparations."

    Read more here: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2014/...rd-unwittingly-oks-slavery.html#storylink=cpy
    .... On Wed., June 18th, Dallas City Council passed a resolution supporting Reparations for African Americans for slavery---without realizing they had done so.

    Quite a few of us celebrated JUNETEENTH at the Hall of State inside the State Fair Of Texas, where a rare document is on display.
    It is the only known signed copy of the Juneteenth document. The paper declared that all slaves in Texas to be free. Because of
    poor communication, the paper arrived months after Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation... arriving on the 19th of June, 1865.
    The document will be on display thru June 22nd, 2014)

    *(this according to CBS evening news, Channel 11 in Dallas)
     
  2. Michael Smith

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    Peace... Sista Butterfly#1, Brotha Clyde and the Destee Family Happy Juneteenth Day!.. Now... yall done started my juices flowing... Got to make a video now!... Peace
     
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    Its a Texas Connection Thang, Michael Smith, we aren't call the Lone Star State for nothing:) ... Texas been doing it big for awhile now:

    "Juneteenth, also known as Freedom Day or Emancipation Day, is an American holiday honoring African American heritage. It commemorates the announcement of the abolition of slavery in the U.S. State of Texas in 1865. Celebrated on June 19, and is recognized as a state holiday in 36 states of the United States.

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    The holiday originated in Galveston, Texas; for more than a century, the state of Texas was the primary home of Juneteenth celebrations, and since 1980, Juneteenth has been an official state holiday in Texas."






     
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    texas is one of the most wretched of the states to this day. I guess Juneteenth is a celebration. Slaves in texas didn’t even know they were free, and then two years later they got the word? I just find it hard to jump up and down and celebrate this. As for Lincoln he only did what he did to save the union, nothing more
     
  5. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    Yeah Brother, a lot went on from the moment of the Emancipation Proclamation of January 1, 1863 until June 19, 1865.

    The Civil War didn't end until April, 1865, and Lincoln was assassinated the same month; all of this occurred before slaves in Texas got the word, 2 months later in June.

    So if General Lee didn't surrender until April of 1865, it means that the final Emancipation Proclamation was only a warning to the confederates on January 1, 1865. Before that, Lincoln had issued a preliminary Emancipation in September of 1862. In fact, it took the passing of the Thirteenth Amendment, January 1, 1865 to free all slaves, the Emancipation only freed those trapped in the rebellious south. Any slave that escaped in the north behind Union lines was considered free.

    Finally, word reached Texas slaves when Union troops, numbering over 1, 000 under Gen. Granger, arrived in Galveston on June 19, 1865.

    So when you consider the war was still going on in 1863 and didn't end until 1865, it wasn't as though the slaves could have walked away had they gotten the word earlier; it was impossible without Union troops clearing the way, with recently freed slaves fighting alongside.

    Our history is important, especially knowing the circumstances around which our people were freed from slavery; its hard to embrace, but its truth and we can't run from it.



     
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    Brother Michael, I hope your Juneteenth was peaceful and fruitful. Some of our children know nothing of it! That's a great place to start enlightening them.
    I am heading to the State Fair this weekend, hoping to get a picture to share with younger or older members of our race.. To see it, bought chills to my body as reflections of SLAVERY and what our forefathers and mothers had to endure ...RUNS THROUGH MY MEMORY!.
     
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    While you are at it butterfly#1, ask Michael to post that video he's about to make in this Thread:)

    Peace... Sista Butterfly#1, Brotha Clyde and the Destee Family Happy Juneteenth Day!.. Now... yall done started my juices flowing... Got to make a video now!... Peace
    Michael Smith, Thursday at 8:54 PM

     
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    ok good idea...Bro. Michael, we are excited to view the video.
     
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    :qqb020:Yeah Brother, a lot went on from the moment of the Emancipation Proclamation of January 1, 1863 until June 19, 1865.

    The Civil War didn't end until April, 1865, and Lincoln was assassinated the same month; all of this occurred before slaves in Texas got the word, 2 months later in June.

    So if General Lee didn't surrender until April of 1865, it means that the final Emancipation Proclamation was only a warning to the confederates on January 1, 1865. Before that, Lincoln had issued a preliminary Emancipation in September of 1862. In fact, it took the passing of the Thirteenth Amendment, January 1, 1865 to free all slaves, the Emancipation only freed those trapped in the rebellious south. Any slave that escaped in the north behind Union lines was considered free.

    Finally, word reached Texas slaves when Union troops, numbering over 1, 000 under Gen. Granger, arrived in Galveston on June 19, 1865.

    So when you consider the war was still going on in 1863 and didn't end until 1865, it wasn't as though the slaves could have walked away had they gotten the word earlier; it was impossible without Union troops clearing the way, with recently freed slaves fighting alongside.

    Our history is important, especially knowing the circumstances around which our people were freed from slavery; its hard to embrace, but its truth and we can't run from it.

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    I read Shaka's post and was surprised to see him say thst he couldn't find a reason to celebrate the freeing of slaves in Texas. I would think that eveeybody Black in the USA, would be proud,to know thst their people were freed from any situation we find ourselves in...and be jumping up and down with elations of joy and happiness. Thats,the only time during that time, the law was,on our side. Thank God for the Union Army and Pres. Lincoln, I don't care the
     
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    John Wiley price almost stands alone in the fight for our people in Dallas.
    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metr...ners-unwittingly-back-slavery-reparations.ece
     
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